Evolution vs God Movie


Take some time to listen to this short 38 min movie. If you are an Evolutionist, I challenge you to listen. If you can answer what these Professors, students and laymen could not answer, you should make it known. This theory became obvious to all what it is, its a faith in human beings to account for their humanity and the world by ignoring God. Lets see how they do.



Reasonable Doubt? Who interprets Genesis 1?


Old Earth Creationism otherwise know as O.E.C exists because various Christian scholars have decided to put their faith in science as a greater authority than the bible when it comes to origins. For them to believe anything the bible says about creation they must get permission from their favorite Ph.D. So far the science dept that dates rocks with carbon 14 and radiometric dating win the day.

I personally think that the only reason, and I mean the major reason we have O.E.C. is because the pride of education in a secular world demand some appreciation for the humanistic thinking that develops the un-biblical origins. In short, their secular peers and teachers need to feel included; now, if they abandon their secular peers they have no “peers” to appreciate their writings and works; they have no peer-review and thereby kill their writings and works by a peer-ostracizing of their writings.

To me its a form of denial, a form of compromise, where the biblical authority for origins is denied and then relegated to poetry and linguistics. Of course there is really no good proof for that, but the lie/deception that Gen 1 and 2 are poetry is out there and wrapped up in the garments of scientific proof and legitimate theorizing.

But seriously, which way can our Christian scholars go if they want the approval of secular scholars? They must go in the direction of Evolution and Old earth theorizing.
Of course none of what I’ve said is provable and Ill I’ve done is make assertions. But I ask you, just what turns a man away from the historical narrative of Gen 1-3 and begin to claim its not historical narrative but a vague poetic discourse describing poetically the events of creation.

This is the real question I have for those who claim its poetry; just how do you translate the poetry back into physical creation, what hermeneutic do you use and where are the interpretations of Genesis that take the days of Genesis and show within the rest of scripture how the bible translates the poetry for us. The bible interprets the bible, I’ve not seen the interpretation of the poetry within the bible to clarify the poetic verses and bring them into human reality.

In my opinion the poetry issue is a complete fabrication and secondly let those who claim it is poetry show us how that poetry is interpreted through the rest of scripture. Show us the metamorphosis of metaphor becoming physical reality.

The Historical Grammatical hermeneutic is rejected. Good bible scholars use the historico/grammatical hermeneutic to interpret bible passages from Genesis 1 to Revelation 22. But now, the case is changing. Various ones are no longer using one hermeneutic for scriptural exegesis, Now a modern science/linguistic approach is being used. The obvious question then needs to be asked; who’s science? The Evolutionist?, The Creationist? The skeptic or Atheist? From which of these people are we asking to supply the ‘science’ in which to backfill Genesis so we can understand the creation days?  The morphing of exegesis to eisogesis has many Christians confused. Instead of the scriptures declaring from a narrative the events of God’s creative works, the linguist has arrived to call it poetry and the scientist has arrived to supply the new-narrative, one that conforms to current anti-biblical evolutionary models.

So far, what Ive seen from O.E.C. Is their dependence upon science to interpret Genesis for us, they don’t use the bible to interpret the biblical account in poetic form in this case. So, the bible remains silent while Mr. Evolutionist and Old Earth theorist is asked to speak from the pulpit. This raises a serious question; for what purpose did it serve God to leave Genesis un-interpretable for 6000 years until the necessary science was developed to understand it properly? Why did God wait, and then after all that waiting, dismiss the power of the Holy Spirit to interpret scripture and reveal its truth, it seems as though God circumvented the Holy Spirit and chose to use 21’st century science to ‘tell us what Genesis really means’. Unless, God said, “wait, instead of assuming the Holy Spirit is directing you to believe that account is a biblical narrative of what I’ve done, I have a group of secular/humanist scientists that will offer you a better interpretation”. But since the average Christian doesn’t trust the secular humanist scientist, the Christian scholar who has agreed with the scientist is ready to step up and declare his findings and use a Christian mouth to spout humanist conclusions.

Darwinism and Intelligent Design Book Review


I fully enjoyed reading this work by Jonathan Wells Ph.D. The focus of the book is to deliver a fair hearing to the reader of the validity of I.D Intelligent Design theory. Jonathan points out the many difficulties I.D. has in moving forward as a legitimate methodology within science to discover design. The book also goes to fair lengths to expose the dirty-Darwinist and his tricks to keep I.D from the minds of people. There are no lack of cronies that are willing to do anything in order to maintain the status-quo of Evolution; when this status quo is threatened out comes the fangs and claws in order to vilify I.D, the scientists or anyone that could possibly kill the flow of funds to a dying and doomed evolutionary theory. The P.I.G. book pulls no punches in regards to provoking the reader to anger at the Darwinist. Its not that Jonathan is railing from one page to another, its the expose’ of rage from the Darwinist that reveals their not-so-scientific proof of Evolution cannot stand much scrutiny. The chief method of making sure Evolution Theory stays in the forefront of people thinking is to silence any other voices that expose Evolution as the biggest pseudo-science philosophy to be propagated since the flat-earth. When good evidence is lacking, attack the Christian as a loon, anti-scientific bible-basher that is illiterate and illogical. The method is vilify the Christian and persecute any scientist that has the decency to willing listen to the other side.

From Colleges to High schools to Churches the methodology of science has a-priori dismissed God and design as though God is against science. But we all know that God is not against science, man is against science and Jonathan Wells proves that the scientist is not always seeking to learn the truth about the world he lives in; rather, we see that in the case of Darwinism it is about money=funding, mind-control=schools and teaching, anti-religious agenda=keeping Christianity out of the conversation about science. All of this betrayal of supposed open-mindedness to learning reveals what Christians have said over and over again since the beginning

Rom 1:18  For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.
Rom 1:19  For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
Rom 1:20  For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Rom 1:21  For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
Rom 1:22  Claiming to be wise, they became fools,

This very explanatory section of Romans declares the real problem with Darwinist and skeptics, “Its not that they don’t know about God, its that they don’t want God and therefore disapprove of him”

Jonathan goes on to show just how I.D really works and how it is not a religious or Christian “back-door” into science to destroy Evolution. It is a methodology of discovering design in the things that are studied in the name of science. If no design is there, then there is none. No God-of-the-gaps insertions, no forcing the issues by inserting theology in the place of good scientific investigation. So far from killing science it opens the possibility of understanding the created world we see. I know I know I used the dreaded word ‘created’ and that’s what the anti-religious scientific community doesn’t want to hear. But that’s the benefit of learning isn’t it? Learning that God is not against science and neither are Christians who appreciate knowledge and learning about this present world. Instead of isolating science from Christians and everyone else, it integrates the physical world that can be known from true and good scientific research and the true and good theological truth that transcends natural boundaries. This integration is everyday contained within the human mind and soul, its the backwards and ignorant assumptions of skepticism and Atheism that lock science into a closet, or theology into a closet to forever demand they never meet. This mindset is old enlightenment thinking that has long since worn out its welcome and now needs to make a quick exit.

Of course this synthesis of Theology and Natural sciences is the dread of the present state of skepticism and agnosticism. To them, its a war that must not be lost, otherwise their skepticism and Atheism will translate into “ignoring the obvious”; science will show the validity of a transcendent designer is justified to accept. The skeptic will no longer be able to justly hold on to their skepticism just as they claim now that Christians ignore the science behind Evolution. Jonathan did not go into details about the synthesis, but he made a great argument for I.D and showed that the anti-I.D community are doing so at the expense of their credibility in years to come. This of course does not mean the skeptic will not find another avenue to escape this conclusion, its just that its hard to do with design staring them in the face in terms of hard evidence.

This is of course why the gospel is so necessary, without it the skeptic has no hope of finding God.
Seeing a designer in creation doesn’t save the man, it only introduces him to what he has already known but denied by other means.

Buy the book, or like I did find it used in a book store and bought it out of curiosity. It was a great buy and well worth the read. Jonathan Wells is not a reviler, he is not demanding an unfair hearing, he is in fact the genuine article and that will be seen in time to come. I believe God will vindicate I.D. and scientists in time to come will have to admit the necessity of design in order to advance our culture. The scientists of the day who demand Philosophical Naturalism will eventually be proven wrong and embarrassingly denounced by their peers in time to come as ‘snake-oil’ pushers of the era.

By Marvin Torgeson